Posted by Huge_bob Saturday, 29 November 2008 at 13:38 1 comments Labels: Huge_bob, mumbo jumbo, Oh yeah, Rant
I was lying when I said I gave you my final word on Wikia. The actual likelihood is that the closure saga might run on for longer than was originally expected, especially since the Wikia representatives have been rather quiet on 'their' Illogicopedia site recently.
Still, I've been immersing myself in past Wikia discussions in order to form a more informed opinion on the situation with Wikia as a whole. They do have their numerous vociferous critics but I am tempted to feel sorry for Wikia and the fact they are under constant pressure to pander to advertisers' wishes. After all, they are the middle men that have little real say in the big decisions - their financial situation dictates what goes on at the site, in essence. A pity, because the idea of a collective pool of knowledge that anyone can access and cite freely is an idea that even Henri de Saint-Simon would be proud of, and for all Wikipedia's well-publicised problems with accuracy of entries, for a free resource it's better than a kick in the teeth.
But the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, especially where big business is concerned. It is all too easy to take the view that each and every one of Wikia's actions are governed by their advertisers, but at some point along the line they must concede that their soul is slowly ebbing away with the inevitable community departures. It could be argued that [weasel words] it's time for Wikia to admit defeat - the list of disgruntled 'customers' (if you could call them that) grows by the day is only going to get larger as long as the advertisers have their way. And would the world be a worse-off place without the Family Guy Wikia? Or the Cheese Wikia? I'd guess for most people the answer would be 'no', after all, where these sites are concerned Wikia is just acting as a glorified web host, surely?
I disagree. It's my personal opinion that the wiki is an excellent invention, a wonderful tool for communities to collect their knowledge together in one place quickly and easily. And so what if there are adverts? Not everybody can afford their own private, ad-free webhosts. So, I say the following.
If you aren't too concerned about site design and having to give up ad space at the expense of information; if you aren't concerned about dealing with corporate representatives and their stock responses to queries, then go ahead, Wikia will be an excellent choice. Be warned, though, for invariably big business is a large, capitalist farmer willing to milk you for all you're worth and whose decision making essentially seeks to benefit themself.I still maintain that, in Illogicopedia's case, Wikia could have been more trusting and respectful of the community. The backlash is likely to be a drawn-out one, and though things are likely to be resolved quicker than the Spanking Art (this link SFW, the wiki itself may not be) situation, the whole New Monaco/Advertising dispute can't have escaped the attention of the wider press. You must have gathered by now that this thing is much bigger than the Illogicopedia.
Posted by Harry Yack Friday, 28 November 2008 at 12:01 5 comments Labels: Afterburger, Hindleyite, wikia suck cheese, wikia sucks cheese
Well, I would choose a long pointy implement and a rather large boat, preferably a cruise liner or something. Alternatively, you could follow the instructions outlined in WikiHowl's article and hope the bear somehow dies from exhaustion or something.
Warning: you're gonna need a magical conch shell, which can be obtained at your local newsagent with your rental copy of Das Pussyvator.
If possible, get to land before fighting the bear. You will have increased mobility and it will be easier to land a jumping punch to the bear's maw. Maw punches will end the fight quickly as you will shame the bear into giving up.For the WikiHowl fans among you, you might be sad to know that the site failed to win an award recently. Don't despair, though, as WikiHowl was the subject of a discussion on Kerrang! Radio a month or so ago, and will be hitting back with even more chuckleworthy Wikihow fodder in the near future. For those of you who haven't already, bookmark WikiHowl now.
It's time once again for some biased babblings with the Thoughts of the Week. Loads of shizmondo kicking around this week, and it's been Illogicopedia's most hectic time since, well, ever. For your delectation, a deliciously drama-free selection of musings for this week, Yak style.
If quizzes are quizzical, then what are tests?Good evening.
Warning: this post contains links to W*kia websites
A discussion is currently taking place over at the old W*kia Illogicopedia as to what you think should happen to it. We urge you to have your say on this matter because, as you can imagine, it's pretty important. Well, I stopped eating my Micro Pizza just to edit it anyway.
So, stick your two-penneth worth in there and we'll hopefully be able to strike some sort of amicable deal with our former Overlords.
To the Ratmobile! I mean, er, the forum topic.
In slightly related news, Uncyclopedia are in continued negotiation with W*kia as to what they're gonna do about the domain name situation. It's all top secret behind the scenes stuff at the moment, but a progress update is imminent.
Stay tuned, because I think QI is starting in a minute.
You might be asking what the heck BJAODN is. Well, it's short for Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense, and if you've ever visited Wikipedia you've no doubt stumbled across it. It's pronounced 'buh-jow-dun' (probably) and stands for 'the funny bits' of the Free Encyclopedia. A crucial part of Wikipedia's history, it logs those 'less than serious' contributions that have since been deleted or reverted in one pocket sized page.
In recent times, the BJAODN has been all but banished from the Wikipedia kingdom as they attempt to discourage 'vandals' and 'miscreants' from adding stuff like "A easy way to test for color blindness is to stick ur finger up ur nose and hold ur leg up while singing the national anthem." Some archive pages still remain, but the landscape has been devastated and with the demise of the Buhjowdon, part of Wikipedia's soul descends to Hell via a very public toilet.
"I like to find out that I died, and that I'm currently in a ballet in China, and all the other very accurate and important things that the Wikipedia site brings us all." -- Stephen Fry on WikipediaI know some Wikipedians are becoming increasingly cheesed off by the site's image. Whenever Wikipedia is mentioned on a television programme it is usually followed by some mildly humorous statement such as "I visited Wikipedia and it said the Eiffel Tower was in Basingstoke". I personally love it when I come across these kinds of edits (not that I would condone vandalism) but the powers that be are employed(?!) to root out any traces of humour Wiki-wide (hence the unofficial 'Fun Police').
Posted by Harry Yack Friday, 21 November 2008 at 15:29 0 comments Labels: BJAODN, Hindleyite, rants, wikipedia
The Illogiblog is, in fact, one of the top five million most visited websites on the Internet right now. That is, according to Alexa Traffic Rankings, where it seems the blog has jumped nearly three million places in the last three months. This is all down to you, the Illogiblog readers, so I extend a hearty thanks to every single one of you. Next stop, number one (million).
Incidentally, Illogicopedia.org itself is actually in the top six million but I expect it to overtake the blog in terms of traffic rank very soon.
Posted by Harry Yack Thursday, 20 November 2008 at 12:22 0 comments Labels: Hindleyite, Illogicopedia in pop culture
Warning: this post is longer than the Brazilian national anthem sung by Mariah Carey on Mogadon.
"Wikia is capitalism dressed up as socialism" -- Andrew Keen
The dust has yet to fully settle on the Illogicopedia independence movement but for all the comments made in anger recently, I thought it was about time I gave my honest opinion on they that are known as Wikia. Most of this stuff I have already stated at some point or another in the last month, and you may well disagree with a lot of it but I've been involved indirectly with Wikia for a long, long while and this is my opinion on the matter.
Personally, I am glad we jumped ship at the point we did. The Wikia service has, on the whole, been top-notch: downtime has been rare. I could live with New Monaco. I could live with the stupid advertisements (and we did for nineteen months) and the feeling of patronism involved with being 'babysat'.
Posted by Harry Yack Wednesday, 19 November 2008 at 12:44 0 comments Labels: Afterburger, bye bye Wikia, Hindleyite, wikia suck cheese
Well, T3 has stated his intention to finish writing his thoughts of the week - seems that he was involved in a high speed crash with Jeremy Clarkson and no longer has the will to live write his column. Never mind, it was good while it lasted. And, to all of you Thoughts of the Week fans (yes, all 1 of you), do not despair for I shall take up the mantle for as long as I can be bothered. That's right, you get to listen to the rants of a complete madman who has never been to Yorkshire in his life! Ahem...
"Alternative rock is the name given to one stone when you're looking at another stone. The term was coined by photographer Edwin Blastocyst when looking at one stone and speaking about another, oddly enough." -- BJAODNAnd finally, an apology for the tardiness of new featured articles. The admins have other battles to fight at the moment, all in the name of Illogicopedian independence. Till the next time, keep fnurdling and nosing the cheese.
Posted by Harry Yack Tuesday, 18 November 2008 at 11:57 2 comments Labels: BJAODN, Hindleyite, thoughts
Well ya know what? Shut up!
So here's what happened:
Posted by Oh No! It's a blog! Monday, 17 November 2008 at 21:52 1 comments Labels: T3canolis sucks balls wait no he doesn't he's cool and he's my fwiend
Unless you've been living under a rock for the last couple of weeks, it can't possibly have escaped your attention that Illogicopedia is going through some biiiig changes. We haven't 'officially' completed the move to the new servers yet as there are one or two images that still need to imported, in an ideal world. In addition, there are a few users that have yet to find the new wiki, so we intend to keep Illogicopedia.wikia.com open for a while.
I must say Wikia are being co-operative with this area of things, despite the anger currently being expressed in the Illogicopedia chatroom. Their representatives, though typically blunt, are being very helpful to the departing community. The ball's pretty much in their court when we leave: their plans for the future of the old Illogic are as yet undecided. Will it be renamed to 'Wackypedia'? Will the new community decide to delete a bunch of Illogicopedia-related articles? Will a new community move in at all? Keep your eyes peeled to see what happens to your content when we announce the move - probably in the form of some sort of email or post in the Wikia forum.
Personally, if Wikia plan to keep their wiki open long term, I object to my content being held there any longer but since they aren't legally obliged to delete it it's likely to remain in place. What can I do, eh? I'm screwed on that. I have a small amount of rights to the content under the GFDL... I should have read that blasted license when we joined, not when we decided to relicense Illogicopedia's content just a few days ago. However, I shall move on as this post is descending into personal views and, well, is starting to resemble a, er, blog post of some description.
Of course, you are free to suggest your input for the rebranded Wikia ?pedia at the appropriate places on the intah-net, or even on the back of Corn Flakes packets. Or, maybe at your local biscuit factory? Wherever you feel like it, really. Careful, though, because I hear walls have ears...
AID EPOC ILLOGI - Phrubub Nose the Cheese.
Posted by Harry Yack Saturday, 15 November 2008 at 17:56 0 comments Labels: Hindleyite, wikia suck cheese, wikia sucks breeze, wikia sucks cheese
It has come to my attention that a number of people, particularly Uncyclopedians, dislike Illogicopedia. It has been suggested that this is due to a perceived 'juvenile' image, most likely down to fact they think it is still January 2007 and Illogicopedia is littered by reams of gibberish and trashy ramble. I am here today to prove to you that this is simply not true, and whilst I am preaching to the converted (heaven forbid an Uncyclopedian read the Illogiblog...) I hope that I can show at least some of you that Illogicopedia is not just a site for kids.
It is true that there are numerous articles of 'low standard', the repetitive category being an example of that. However, the in-progress Article Improvement Drive (somewhat stalled by the move, but never fear, we'll be back on track soon) ought to sort things out to a degree, depending on the level of effort put into things. A mention must also be made of MrMetalFLower, who started the wheels moving on a campaign to stamp out "repetitives", which I shall be reviving sooner rather than later.
Another suggestion was that the front page serves to propagate this juvenile image. It must be conceded that the current design (as of about a week ago) is slightly dated, with no real positive changes made for months and months. The thinking behind this was to mirror Wikipedia, but Illogicopedia is not Wikipedia, as the experts themselves have in no uncertain terms stated. Well, I have gone ahead and tweaked one or two areas and the plan is that soon, most aspects of the front page will be revamped.
Vandalpedia may or may not be a casualty of this: though it's a much loved section of the front page, the sandal template has fallen into disuse of recent times. It could perhaps be argued that a merge of the news and vandalism templates would benefit, leaving room for some forum links and so on in its absence.
I will be taking it upon myself to make these bold changes and if anybody dislikes them, please let me know. It's important we have a front page the community is happy with.
So, er, article quality. There is no doubt that the quality of the featured articles is, like a Somerset farmer's genetically modified marrow, ever-growing. But we ask you to put these on the back burner for now and concentrate on transforming old articles into feature-worthy pinnacles of literatic wizardry. Or, just add a few more sentences.
Right, I have gone on for long enough. Once again, I thank you for (not) listening.
PS. This is the 100th post of 2008. Woohoo!
Hi folks. It is me, Ragglefraggleking. I have took a break from Illogiblogging but know I shall be back! Okey dokey. Here's today's splash of Bathroom Genie!
Hi. It seems Illogia is finally free of the fish killing funky chunky monkey eating flabber farted Wikia. Whew! YEY! I like pie.
So, there have been a number (elevnty four) "bugs" (ew) occurring on the new wiki (both .com &.org). They have ranged from error messages, to forums not working, to internal Mediawiki errors. Sometimes it won't let you edit. But, rest assured. ?pedia is home now. And for the most part, works. So let's all give a big "Kookoochuru!" for the Illogicopedia!!!!
Next time on Bathroom Genie:
Will the pencil sharpeners eat BOB?
--RFK
Posted by Raggle Fraggle King Sunday, 9 November 2008 at 23:29 0 comments Labels: Bathroom Genie, Chewbacca, RFK
Well, no T3 again for now. Last week I reported that Terminator had perhaps got him: but don't fret! He's since been reported alive and well with Saturday Night Fever star John Travolta in the depths of the Outer Bangolia flying tree forest. Anyway, heeeeeeere's some yakking for week starting 9th November.
The Illogiblog is brought to you by a dedicated team of Illogicopedia users stationed all over the world in order bring you, the reader, the latest in nonsensical happenings from Altrincham to Albuquerque. Or, just stuff happening at the wiki.
The Illogic HQ is alive with activity, users clamouring to grab five minutes on the BBC Micro to upload their thoughts and opinions, or just play Manic Miner.
The bloggers
Some people (granted, they are in the minority) may have questions as to exactly why Illogicopedia is moving from its 16-month-long home at Wikia. Well, it was always an intention for Illogic to go independent... oh, right, I've said that bit loads of times before. Here are some very good reasons why Illogic is better off without Wikia:
Bureaucracy. Now Monaco - we didn't agree to it but they forced it upon us anyway. Not fair, eh? We get the impression Wikia never wanted us there in the first place, they were highly reluctant and seemed to see us as a second rate piece of rubbish. They eventually accepted us into the community when they saw we attracted users, but how dare they doubt us!
Admins can now change usernames. Binclin, Jojo Randomise, David. What do these users have in common? That's right, they've all had to create new accounts because Wikia didn't like people changing their usernames. Admins now have the power to do this freely, meaning you won't lose any edits. Wonder how long it'll be before User:Bcbkye comes along?
Posted by Harry Yack Saturday, 8 November 2008 at 16:06 4 comments Labels: bye bye Wikia, Hindleyite, wikia suck cheese

Well, it's taken... how many months? But the Illogicopedia independence drive has finally pushed forward apace this week. Carlb, owner of servers hosting the Uncyclopedia babel project, has generously donated webspace for Illogicopedia to set up independently of Wikia. The English, French and Dutch Illogicopedias are now kindly hosted by Mr Carl at the following addresses:
Posted by Harry Yack Friday, 7 November 2008 at 13:06 3 comments Labels: bye bye Wikia, Hindleyite, News, wikia suck cheese, wikia sucks cheese
It's election time, and I'm making a big deal of it! I've done a bit of editing as a one off and I'm randomly obsessed with the elections. As some may now, I personally support McCain and believe Obama is a liar! And BBC are doing a staying up-all night election watch thing, and wait... some results are coming in now! Wait:
Posted by Benedict 'The Blade' TD Tuesday, 4 November 2008 at 23:55 3 comments Labels: America Election Mccain Obama
Well, I dunno what's happened to T3, maybe the Terminator got him. Anyway, you're listening to the Yak stepping in to give my thoughts o't' week.
Hey, I been looking at your wiki, and I'm interested in one thing: a new Admin? I think last time this came about it was for all non-Brits, so I've got a few candidates:
P.S: Well done RFK!
Posted by Benedict 'The Blade' TD Sunday, 2 November 2008 at 14:00 0 comments Labels: Something not about Wikia